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                     <emph rend="allcaps">Lecture XIII</emph>
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                  <date when-iso="1955-11-15">Nov. 15, 1955</date>
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                        <emph rend="allcaps">Questions from students:</emph>
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                  <lb facs="#facs_143_tr_1_tl_5" n="N003"/>This question is a good transition, perhaps, to the lecture I am starting now:</p>
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                  <emph rend="allcaps">Question</emph>: Does scientific thought contribute to the breaking of religious symbols and <rs type="keyword" ref="#Myth">myths</rs>, <hi style="font-style: italic;">à la</hi>
                  <rs type="person" ref="#tillich_person_id__320"> Bultmann?</rs>
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                     <rs type="person" ref="#tillich_person_id__1928">Answer (<rs type="person" ref="#tillich_person_id__1928">Paul Tillich</rs>)</rs>
                  </emph>: Now “scientific” can be used in two senses. One is the sense in which I have used it in the last
               <lb facs="#facs_143_tr_1_tl_8" n="N006"/>lecture, namely natural sciences. The other sense is methodological. In German the word
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                  <hi style="font-style: italic;">Wissenschaft</hi> combines both meanings. In English, for some historical reasons, the term <hi style="font-style: italic;">scientia</hi>
                  <lb facs="#facs_143_tr_1_tl_10" n="N008"/>(<rs type="keyword" ref="#Science">science</rs>) has almost been reserved for natural sciences of a mathematical character. So the question
               <lb facs="#facs_143_tr_1_tl_11" n="N009"/>here can mean two things. From the point of view of the narrower concept, mathematical sciences,
               <lb facs="#facs_143_tr_1_tl_12" n="N010"/>I would answer: they have nothing to do with the question of historical research, to which I turn now.
              <lb facs="#facs_143_tr_1_tl_13" n="N011"/>If “scientific” is meant in a larger sense, namely as methodological, then certainly the interpretation,
              <lb facs="#facs_143_tr_1_tl_14" n="N012"/>the historical understanding, of the biblical sources has a <emph rend="allcaps">lot</emph> to do with the breaking of the <rs type="keyword" ref="#Myth">myth</rs>.</p>
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                  <lb facs="#facs_143_tr_1_tl_15" n="N013"/>Perhaps there is another question—I don’t want to run ahead too quickly. Since there is not,
              <lb facs="#facs_143_tr_1_tl_16" n="N014"/>I run ahead!</p>
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                        <emph rend="allcaps">Lecture:</emph>
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                  <lb facs="#facs_143_tr_1_tl_17" n="N015"/>The general subject is the relationship of religious truth to cognitive truth, and we wanted
               <lb facs="#facs_143_tr_1_tl_18" n="N016"/>to proceed in three steps: <rs type="keyword" ref="#Truth_scientific">scientific truth</rs>,<rs type="keyword" ref="#Truth_Historical"> historical truth</rs>, and <rs type="keyword" ref="#Truth_Philosophical">philosophical truth</rs>. We discussed
               <lb facs="#facs_143_tr_1_tl_19" n="N017"/>last week and the week before, scientific truth. The most important point perhaps was the very last one
               <lb facs="#facs_143_tr_1_tl_20" n="N018"/>on Thursday, namely the question of <rs type="keyword" ref="#Ideology">ideology</rs>, the question of <rs type="keyword" ref="#Projection_theories">projection</rs>, in another terminology; the
               <lb facs="#facs_143_tr_1_tl_21" n="N019"/>question: Can <rs type="keyword" ref="#Genesis">genesis</rs>, the becoming of something in the mind or in society, determine about its <rs type="keyword" ref="#Truth">truth </rs>
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                  <lb facs="#facs_144_tr_1_tl_2" n="N002"/>value? My answer was, it cannot. There are many ways in which an idea can come into existence,
               <lb facs="#facs_144_tr_1_tl_3" n="N003"/>but no way as such refutes or confirms the truth <emph rend="allcaps">within itself</emph>. For this reason, I warn you,
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                  <emph rend="allcaps">always</emph>, not to confuse these two questions, of <rs type="keyword" ref="#Genesis">genesis</rs> and <rs type="keyword" ref="#Validity">validity</rs>. I may add here perhaps one
              <lb facs="#facs_144_tr_1_tl_5" n="N005"/>thing because it is of such practical importance for our thought in our daily lives:</p>
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                  <lb facs="#facs_144_tr_1_tl_6" n="N006"/>Let us imagine that you discuss a problem of a life decision, an ethical or vocational
               <lb facs="#facs_144_tr_1_tl_7" n="N007"/>decision, with a friend. And after a certain time, he tells you: of course, you must think like that
               <lb facs="#facs_144_tr_1_tl_8" n="N008"/>because you come from this suburban sociological background.—If then I were in your situation,
               <lb facs="#facs_144_tr_1_tl_9" n="N009"/>I would answer: Yes, and you must think like that because you have neurotic traits in your character!—This
               <lb facs="#facs_144_tr_1_tl_10" n="N010"/>is the only answer you can give. And then what is the next step? I used to say the next step is
               <lb facs="#facs_144_tr_1_tl_11" n="N011"/>that one of the two says to the other, “So let's stop this and have a drink!” [<emph rend="allcaps italic">laughter</emph>] Now this is
               <lb facs="#facs_144_tr_1_tl_12" n="N012"/>a caricature of the method which confuses genesis and validity. Probably he is right when he tells
               <lb facs="#facs_144_tr_1_tl_13" n="N013"/>you that the fact of your coming from a special suburban surroundings enforces your ethical judgments.
               <lb facs="#facs_144_tr_1_tl_14" n="N014"/>And probably <emph rend="allcaps">you</emph> are right when you tell <emph rend="allcaps">him</emph> that the neurotic elements (everybody has some)
               <lb facs="#facs_144_tr_1_tl_15" n="N015"/>in his character structure enforce <emph rend="allcaps">his</emph> theoretical—political or theological—judgments. But you
               <lb facs="#facs_144_tr_1_tl_16" n="N016"/>only can continue asking: So what? That is the situation. That is all our situation. And you can,
               <lb facs="#facs_144_tr_1_tl_17" n="N017"/>if it were not for grades, deal with me in the same way and say, “We don’t come any more because
               <lb facs="#facs_144_tr_1_tl_18" n="N018"/>we can deduce this from your being born in the year 1886, in the middle of the high-capitalist
               <lb facs="#facs_144_tr_1_tl_19" n="N019"/>society of Central Europe; you are a German and nourished in German romanticism; you are a
               <lb facs="#facs_144_tr_1_tl_20" n="N020"/>neurotic with extreme guilt feelings [<emph rend="allcaps italic">laughter</emph>]; so everything you tell us here is nothing other than
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                  <lb facs="#facs_145_tr_1_tl_2" n="N002"/>the expression of these facts which we know anyhow. Why shall we listen to you?”</p>
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                  <lb facs="#facs_145_tr_1_tl_3" n="N003"/>Now I think these two caricatures which I gave you show clearer than any abstract
              <lb facs="#facs_145_tr_1_tl_4" n="N004"/>definition what I mean with the confusion of <rs type="keyword" ref="#Genesis">genesis</rs> and <rs type="keyword" ref="#Validity">validity</rs>.</p>
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                  <lb facs="#facs_145_tr_1_tl_5" n="N005"/>I have labored under this problem not so much by myself—I learned the difference as a
               <lb facs="#facs_145_tr_1_tl_6" n="N006"/>student already—but in talking with people, that it is really necessary to speak of it very definitively.
               <lb facs="#facs_145_tr_1_tl_7" n="N007"/>And perhaps one more remark should be made. There are situations in which it <emph rend="allcaps">is</emph> justified to
               <lb facs="#facs_145_tr_1_tl_8" n="N008"/>apply the genetic method. These situations can be described as situations in which the man with
               <lb facs="#facs_145_tr_1_tl_9" n="N009"/>whom you talk shows a complete inconsistency in his thinking—not that he makes logical mistakes
               <lb facs="#facs_145_tr_1_tl_10" n="N010"/>(that, we all do when we discuss something) but that he has a well-rounded point of view, and on
               <lb facs="#facs_145_tr_1_tl_11" n="N011"/>some places he makes statements which are completely un-understandable in terms of his point of
               <lb facs="#facs_145_tr_1_tl_12" n="N012"/>view. Then I would say a compulsory element has entered the consistency of his thinking. If this
               <lb facs="#facs_145_tr_1_tl_13" n="N013"/>is the case, then the problem of <rs type="keyword" ref="#Validity">validity</rs> can be complained, or supported, by the question of <rs type="keyword" ref="#Genesis">genesis</rs>,
               <lb facs="#facs_145_tr_1_tl_14" n="N014"/>but only in such extreme cases, when you have in your discussion a compulsory resistance, not against
               <lb facs="#facs_145_tr_1_tl_15" n="N015"/>something <emph rend="allcaps">you</emph> say (when you call it compulsory, that may be your <emph rend="allcaps">own</emph> compulsion that you call
               <lb facs="#facs_145_tr_1_tl_16" n="N016"/>it so), but if it is inconsistent in an obvious way, in the whole of the other man's thought. Now this
               <lb facs="#facs_145_tr_1_tl_17" n="N017"/>is something which, I also would say, you have to apply to all the great figures of the past. If you deal
               <lb facs="#facs_145_tr_1_tl_18" n="N018"/>with them and have a picture of them which is in itself consistent, whether you accept it or not,
               <lb facs="#facs_145_tr_1_tl_19" n="N019"/>then you have discussed with this man of the past (let us say, <rs type="person" ref="#tillich_person_id__1228">Martin Luther)</rs> in terms of his basic
               <lb facs="#facs_145_tr_1_tl_20" n="N020"/>ideas. But then you come to some point in which he suddenly becomes stubborn and compulsory,
            </p>
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               <fw facs="#facs_146_tr_2">
                  <lb facs="#facs_146_tr_2_tl_1" n="N001"/>[143]</fw>
               <p rend="tei-p-no-indent">
                  <lb facs="#facs_146_tr_2_tl_2" n="N002"/>for instance about <rs type="keyword" ref="#Literalism">biblical literalism</rs>, taking suddenly a biblical word literally, while in the totality
               <lb facs="#facs_146_tr_2_tl_3" n="N003"/>of his thinking literalism would be excluded—then you have to ask: now what does that mean? This
               <lb facs="#facs_146_tr_2_tl_4" n="N004"/>cannot be understood in terms of his whole system, so it must be understood in terms of remnants of
               <lb facs="#facs_146_tr_2_tl_5" n="N005"/>the past, or of a special historical situation in which he was forced into such a thing—e.g., the Marburg
              <lb facs="#facs_146_tr_2_tl_6" n="N006"/>Confession. But be very cautious in this method; always be prejudiced towards each
               <lb facs="#facs_146_tr_2_tl_7" n="N007"/>other, and toward any figure in the past, that he knows what he is talking about and that he <emph rend="allcaps">means</emph> it,
               <lb facs="#facs_146_tr_2_tl_8" n="N008"/>and that it has some place in the whole of his thinking. And refute him in terms of arguments, but
               <lb facs="#facs_146_tr_2_tl_9" n="N009"/>not in terms of sociological or psychological analysis, except in extreme cases where it is obvious
               <lb facs="#facs_146_tr_2_tl_12" n="N010"/>that you cannot deal with him in terms of rational discussions. Of course, nothing in the world is
               <lb facs="#facs_146_tr_2_tl_13" n="N011"/>absolutely obvious, so there is always the possibility that you make a mistake, but in any case, this is
               <lb facs="#facs_146_tr_2_tl_14" n="N012"/>the practical, the pragmatic criterion which I give you in all such kinds of discussions. For this reason,
               <lb facs="#facs_146_tr_2_tl_15" n="N013"/>I suppose it is not entirely useless to listen now to the next lecture, even after everybody completely
              <lb facs="#facs_146_tr_2_tl_16" n="N014"/>analyzed the situation sociologically and psychologically.</p>
               <lb rend="lb-show"/>
               <p>
                  <supplied resp="editor">
                     <emph rend="allcaps italic">6.2 Religion and Historical Truth</emph>
                  </supplied>
               </p>
               <p>
                  <lb facs="#facs_146_tr_2_tl_17" n="N015"/>
                  <rs type="keyword" ref="#Truth_Historical">Historical truth</rs> has a quite different character from <rs type="keyword" ref="#Truth_scientific">scientific truth</rs>. <rs type="keyword" ref="#History">History</rs> reports unique
               <lb facs="#facs_146_tr_2_tl_18" n="N016"/>events. Every historical event is once, unique, and never can be repeated. Every physical fact
               <lb facs="#facs_146_tr_2_tl_19" n="N017"/>can be repeated as often as we can produce the external conditions. You can never produce the
               <lb facs="#facs_146_tr_2_tl_20" n="N018"/>external conditions for a historical constellation. It has gone forever. Therefore you cannot test historical
               <lb facs="#facs_146_tr_2_tl_21" n="N019"/>truth by repetition. You can test it certainly by <emph rend="allcaps">other</emph> methods. Scientific processes, you can
               <lb facs="#facs_146_tr_2_tl_22" n="N020"/>test again and again, and it is one of the great advantages of the sciences that every special scientist
            </p>
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               <p rend="tei-p-no-indent">
                  <lb facs="#facs_147_tr_2_tl_2" n="N002"/>can test the experiment by which his predecessor came to a special result and can find out the
               <lb facs="#facs_147_tr_2_tl_3" n="N003"/>mistakes or the truth of them. Nothing like this can be done in <rs type="keyword" ref="#History">history</rs>, not even in <rs type="keyword" ref="#Biology">biology</rs>,
               <lb facs="#facs_147_tr_2_tl_4" n="N004"/>not even in the psychology of an individual person, because even the conditions in which an individual
               <lb facs="#facs_147_tr_2_tl_5" n="N005"/>lives are beyond repetition: his life process has gone beyond the moment in which you have first
               <lb facs="#facs_147_tr_2_tl_7" n="N006"/>observed him. He is not the same tomorrow that he was today. Therefore you cannot subject him to
               <lb facs="#facs_147_tr_2_tl_8" n="N007"/>a test of repetition. Or you can do it only in some realms which can be abstracted from his life process,
               <lb facs="#facs_147_tr_2_tl_9" n="N008"/>and all test methods are based on such abstractions. But if you want to know the total life of a
              <lb facs="#facs_147_tr_2_tl_10" n="N009"/>person, then this total life cannot be repeated in any moment of its whole process.</p>
               <p>
                  <lb facs="#facs_147_tr_2_tl_11" n="N010"/>And so it is with <rs type="keyword" ref="#History">history</rs> as a whole. Historical events are not subject to experiment.
               <lb facs="#facs_147_tr_2_tl_12" n="N011"/>But they are subject to an experience which is, to a certain degree verifiable, or verifying. Here
               <lb facs="#facs_147_tr_2_tl_13" n="N012"/>we have an analogy to the physical experiment in historical research, namely the dealing with
               <lb facs="#facs_147_tr_2_tl_14" n="N013"/>documents. If, concerning the same event, you have two independent documents which point to
               <lb facs="#facs_147_tr_2_tl_15" n="N014"/>the same fact, then you have a high degree of probability that the assertion is verified. But
               <lb facs="#facs_147_tr_2_tl_16" n="N015"/>I would say “a high degree” of probability—you never have more than this, in <emph rend="allcaps">any</emph> historical
               <lb facs="#facs_147_tr_2_tl_17" n="N016"/>research, even if it refers to the last year of your own life, and your own personal experiences.
               <lb facs="#facs_147_tr_2_tl_18" n="N017"/>You can ask others who were with you, you can ask your memory, you can do a lot of things,
               <lb facs="#facs_147_tr_2_tl_19" n="N018"/>but you can never trespass probability, you never can reach that amount of verifiable hypotheses
              <lb facs="#facs_147_tr_2_tl_20" n="N019"/>which you can reach in science.</p>
               <p>
                  <lb facs="#facs_147_tr_2_tl_21" n="N020"/>What does <rs type="keyword" ref="#History">history</rs> do, in its work? What does the historian do? He does three things—
            </p>
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               <p rend="tei-p-no-indent">
                  <lb facs="#facs_148_tr_2_tl_2" n="N002"/>and if he doesn’t do these three things, he is not a good historian, and I will give you immediately
               <lb facs="#facs_148_tr_2_tl_3" n="N003"/>the consequences of this <gap/> The first and basic is that he tries to state those verifiable facts which
               <lb facs="#facs_148_tr_2_tl_4" n="N004"/>are important for his enterprise. Now I bring in here the word “important,” which I will explain
               <lb facs="#facs_148_tr_2_tl_5" n="N005"/>much more. But the first thing is: verifiable facts, verifiable in the very narrow limits of historical
               <lb facs="#facs_148_tr_2_tl_6" n="N006"/>probability, which can never be trespassed and which can never reach the state of scientific
              <lb facs="#facs_148_tr_2_tl_7" n="N007"/>hypothetical probability. That's the one thing.</p>
               <p>
                  <lb facs="#facs_148_tr_2_tl_8" n="N008"/>The second thing he does is: explaining. Explaining means to give an account about the
              <lb facs="#facs_148_tr_2_tl_9" n="N009"/>origin of the facts, of the way they came into existence, of their relations.</p>
               <p>
                  <lb facs="#facs_148_tr_2_tl_10" n="N010"/>The third: he must <emph rend="allcaps">understand</emph> them. This is the most discussed point in historical
               <lb facs="#facs_148_tr_2_tl_11" n="N011"/>work, and the only really worthwhile point in all historical enterprise, namely to understand the
              <lb facs="#facs_148_tr_2_tl_12" n="N012"/>
                  <emph rend="allcaps">meaning</emph> of the explained facts.</p>
               <p>
                  <lb facs="#facs_148_tr_2_tl_13" n="N013"/>So we have three things: describing—as it actually has been; explaining—how it came
              <lb facs="#facs_148_tr_2_tl_14" n="N014"/>to this; and understanding—what it means.</p>
               <p>
                  <lb facs="#facs_148_tr_2_tl_15" n="N015"/>In doing all this, the <rs type="keyword" ref="#Historian">historian</rs> behaves differently from the <rs type="keyword" ref="#Scientist">scientist</rs>. The scientist must
               <lb facs="#facs_148_tr_2_tl_16" n="N016"/>remain in a complete detachment from the content of his research; he never can go beyond it.
               <lb facs="#facs_148_tr_2_tl_17" n="N017"/>The historian tries to keep the same attitude—and rightly so—with respect to the facts: “in the
              <lb facs="#facs_148_tr_2_tl_18" n="N018"/>year so-and-so, <rs type="person" ref="#tillich_person_id__349">Caesar</rs> crossed the Rubicon.” That is a fact, and this fact must be assured, and it
              <lb facs="#facs_148_tr_2_tl_19" n="N019"/>can be assured only by the detached analysis of all the documents which point to this fact.</p>
               <p>
                  <lb facs="#facs_148_tr_2_tl_20" n="N020"/>Then he has to explain, and there, a little bit more of participation is involved. It is
            </p>
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               <fw facs="#facs_149_tr_2">
                  <lb facs="#facs_149_tr_2_tl_1" n="N001"/>[146]</fw>
               <p rend="tei-p-no-indent">
                  <lb facs="#facs_149_tr_2_tl_2" n="N002"/>
                  <emph rend="allcaps">still</emph> as much detached as possible, but it is not completely without involvement because it
               <lb facs="#facs_149_tr_2_tl_3" n="N003"/>presupposes a <rs type="keyword" ref="#Participation">participation</rs> in those who <emph rend="allcaps">act</emph> historically, and in their motives. And if you
              <lb facs="#facs_149_tr_2_tl_4" n="N004"/>
                  <emph rend="allcaps">explain</emph>
                  <rs type="person" ref="#tillich_person_id__349"> Caesar's</rs> attack on Rome, then you can find, and you always find, more than one
               <lb facs="#facs_149_tr_2_tl_5" n="N005"/>motive. And you evaluate the weight of these motives and thereby you come to an
               <lb facs="#facs_149_tr_2_tl_7" n="N006"/>involvement in terms of an analogy which you make with yourselves. Unconsciously, every
               <lb facs="#facs_149_tr_2_tl_8" n="N007"/>
                  <rs type="keyword" ref="#Historian">historian</rs> puts himself on the place of the great historical actors, otherwise he wouldn’t be able
               <lb facs="#facs_149_tr_2_tl_9" n="N008"/>to explain anything. For instance, he must understand what ambition means, what will-to-power
               <lb facs="#facs_149_tr_2_tl_10" n="N009"/>means, what the feeling for justice means, what anticipation of danger means—and many other
               <lb facs="#facs_149_tr_2_tl_11" n="N010"/>things like that. And he must be able to put these motives into the right proportion. This
              <lb facs="#facs_149_tr_2_tl_12" n="N011"/>means involvement, and is more than mere detached analysis.</p>
               <p>
                  <lb facs="#facs_149_tr_2_tl_14" n="N012"/>Then there is the third and most difficult thing, namely understanding. <rs type="keyword" ref="#Understanding">Understanding</rs>
                  <lb facs="#facs_149_tr_2_tl_15" n="N013"/>is an act of total <rs type="keyword" ref="#Participation">participation</rs>. Let me give first an example of a text. How can you understand
               <lb facs="#facs_149_tr_2_tl_16" n="N014"/>a text like a Platonic dialogue, or a biblical text? What do you do if you try to understand it?
               <lb facs="#facs_149_tr_2_tl_17" n="N015"/>You try to use your organs of understanding of the realm described in this text—in the one case,
               <lb facs="#facs_149_tr_2_tl_18" n="N016"/>a philosophy, politics, or aesthetics; in the other case, religion or ethics—you must participate with
               <lb facs="#facs_149_tr_2_tl_19" n="N017"/>your organs of understanding just in what has happened, in the text. But now something very
               <lb facs="#facs_149_tr_2_tl_20" n="N018"/>difficult occurs, namely it occurs that your organs of understanding do not leave the text
               <lb facs="#facs_149_tr_2_tl_21" n="N019"/>unchanged, but something <emph rend="allcaps">new</emph> is created: the understood text, which is not only the text as it
              <lb facs="#facs_149_tr_2_tl_22" n="N020"/>“<emph rend="allcaps">stands</emph>” there, but it is also the text as it has grasped you, or as you have grasped it.
            </p>
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               <fw facs="#facs_150_tr_2">
                  <lb facs="#facs_150_tr_2_tl_1" n="N001"/>[147]</fw>
               <p rend="tei-p-no-indent">
                  <lb facs="#facs_150_tr_2_tl_2" n="N002"/>Now this produces the mystery of <rs type="keyword" ref="#Understanding">understanding</rs>, which is one of the most important things in all
               <lb facs="#facs_150_tr_2_tl_3" n="N003"/>humanities. And this is not only a matter of us sitting here, 3000 or 2400 years <emph rend="allcaps">after Plato</emph>,
               <lb facs="#facs_150_tr_2_tl_4" n="N004"/>but it is also a matter of <rs type="person" ref="#Plato">Plato</rs> himself: when he tried to understand his <emph rend="allcaps">own</emph> texts, he never understood
               <lb facs="#facs_150_tr_2_tl_5" n="N005"/>them—of course it is humanly impossible—exactly as he had written them. All of us who ever have
               <lb facs="#facs_150_tr_2_tl_6" n="N006"/>written books or papers which they have preserved, and read them again after a certain reasonable time,
               <lb facs="#facs_150_tr_2_tl_7" n="N007"/>in which something happens in their own development, will realize that these texts do not mean
               <lb facs="#facs_150_tr_2_tl_8" n="N008"/>the same to them now than they did at that time; you don’t know any more exactly what they
               <lb facs="#facs_150_tr_2_tl_9" n="N009"/>meant at that time. They mean often something not absolutely different, but quite different. This is
               <lb facs="#facs_150_tr_2_tl_10" n="N010"/>one of the most interesting experiences. And I would like that sometimes, some of you, or some
               <lb facs="#facs_150_tr_2_tl_11" n="N011"/>other <hi style="font-style: italic;">doctorandus</hi>, would sit down for two years, or ten years, and look at the more important
               <lb facs="#facs_150_tr_2_tl_12" n="N012"/>philosophers who had a development, and show the self-interpretation of their own texts by these
               <lb facs="#facs_150_tr_2_tl_13" n="N013"/>philosophers in the later stages of their development. And they will find astonishing results! They
               <lb facs="#facs_150_tr_2_tl_14" n="N014"/>are the <emph rend="allcaps">first</emph> one to create a “third” out of the text and out of their own means of understanding.
               <lb facs="#facs_150_tr_2_tl_15" n="N015"/>Then their disciples follow—and how <emph rend="allcaps">disciples</emph> understand masters, or teachers, is very well
               <lb facs="#facs_150_tr_2_tl_16" n="N016"/>exemplified in that saying by <rs type="person" ref="#tillich_person_id__839">Hegel</rs> which is probably apocryphal, but in any case is very good,
               <lb facs="#facs_150_tr_2_tl_17" n="N017"/>as most apocryphal sayings are: “I have only one pupil who has understood me, and he has
              <lb facs="#facs_150_tr_2_tl_18" n="N018"/>misunderstood me!”<note type="ea">In private conversation, with myself and <rs type="person" ref="#tillich_person_id__3083">Horst Bürkle</rs>, then a Union Seminary colleague student, now
                 a specialist in world religions in Germany, Prof. Tillich expressed a doubt whether even Prof. <rs type="person" ref="#tillich_person_id__8">James Luther
                    Adams</rs> had understood him rightly.—Ed. My substitution for <rs type="person" ref="#tillich_person_id__1928">PT</rs>'s “cryptic”.—Ed.</note>  Now this kind of thing is something which one should not take in terms of
              <lb facs="#facs_150_tr_2_tl_19" n="N019"/>understanding or misunderstanding. All the pupils in the Hegelian school have understood him, </p>
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               <p rend="tei-p-no-indent">
                  <lb facs="#facs_151_tr_2_tl_2" n="N002"/>but have made something “third” out of him, by their own organs of reception.</p>
               <p>
                  <lb facs="#facs_151_tr_2_tl_3" n="N003"/>The same is true, of course, of the biblical literature. And since I have to speak anyhow
               <lb facs="#facs_151_tr_2_tl_4" n="N004"/>about it more than in my former lectures, in these remarks on history let me say immediately the
              <lb facs="#facs_151_tr_2_tl_5" n="N005"/>following: <emph rend="allcaps">There is no one who has not made something</emph>
                  <emph rend="allcaps">“third”</emph>
                  <emph rend="allcaps">out of the</emph>
                  <lb facs="#facs_151_tr_2_tl_6" n="N006"/>
                  <emph rend="allcaps">biblical texts and his participation of understanding in them</emph>. Therefore
               <lb facs="#facs_151_tr_2_tl_7" n="N007"/>the history of commentaries is a continuous history going on through all centuries, and the present-day
               <lb facs="#facs_151_tr_2_tl_8" n="N008"/>commentaries contain the same texts—almost the same, with very few changes—and in most
               <lb facs="#facs_151_tr_2_tl_9" n="N009"/>cases where <emph rend="allcaps">exactly</emph> the same texts are used, the commentaries today say something quite different
               <lb facs="#facs_151_tr_2_tl_10" n="N010"/>than the commentaries by <rs type="person" ref="#tillich_person_id__1429">Origen</rs> or <rs type="person" ref="#tillich_person_id__100">Augustine</rs> or earlier commentaries. Now this means that
               <lb facs="#facs_151_tr_2_tl_11" n="N011"/>the commentary to a text is a creation of a special type of truth: it is the truth of <rs type="keyword" ref="#Understanding">understanding</rs>.
               <lb facs="#facs_151_tr_2_tl_12" n="N012"/>But don’t misunderstand <emph rend="allcaps">me</emph> now! I do <emph rend="allcaps">not</emph> mean to say that the commentator, the interpreter
               <lb facs="#facs_151_tr_2_tl_13" n="N013"/>of a text, simply makes something new out of it, says his <emph rend="allcaps">own</emph> thought, in terms of a commentary.
               <lb facs="#facs_151_tr_2_tl_14" n="N014"/>Then he is not a commentator—then he is a systematic theologian <hi style="font-style: italic;">[some laughter]</hi>. And I know
               <lb facs="#facs_151_tr_2_tl_15" n="N015"/>some commentators who were systematic theologians and who used—for instance <rs type="person" ref="#tillich_person_id__137">Karl Barth</rs> on
               <lb facs="#facs_151_tr_2_tl_16" n="N016"/>Paul's <hi style="font-style: italic;">Letter to the Romans</hi>, written <emph rend="allcaps">in order to express</emph> Barth’s <emph rend="allcaps">theology</emph>, using the
               <lb facs="#facs_151_tr_2_tl_17" n="N017"/>Pauline text but not even <emph rend="allcaps">intending</emph> to give a real commentary, in terms of understanding of
               <lb facs="#facs_151_tr_2_tl_18" n="N018"/>Paul. Now this is an extreme case, and we have other people who did the same thing, and
               <lb facs="#facs_151_tr_2_tl_19" n="N019"/>sometimes a very fruitful case—I still believe that this commentary on Romans is Karl Barth's
              <lb facs="#facs_151_tr_2_tl_20" n="N020"/>by far the best book. But you shouldn’t take it if you want to understand Paul.</p>
               <p>
                  <lb facs="#facs_151_tr_2_tl_21" n="N021"/>Now the same was done, for instance, by another very good book, which I <emph rend="allcaps">also</emph>
                  <lb facs="#facs_151_tr_2_tl_22" n="N022"/>would call perhaps his best book, namely <rs type="person" ref="#tillich_person_id__841">Heidegger's</rs> commentary on <rs type="person" ref="#tillich_person_id__1020">Kant</rs>, which is a really
               <lb facs="#facs_151_tr_2_tl_23" n="N023"/>great book, in which he interprets Kant existentially, or existentialistically, and this interpretation
               <lb facs="#facs_151_tr_2_tl_24" n="N024"/>is a <emph rend="allcaps">great work</emph> of philosophy, a tremendous thought. But if you want to know what Kant
               <lb facs="#facs_151_tr_2_tl_25" n="N025"/>
                  <emph rend="allcaps">has said</emph>, please don't use it and quote it in your papers about Kant. But if you want to <emph rend="allcaps">relate </emph>
               </p>
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               <p rend="tei-p-no-indent">
                  <lb facs="#facs_152_tr_2_tl_2" n="N002"/>possibilities in Kant with present-day <rs type="keyword" ref="#Existentialism">
                     <emph rend="allcaps">existentialism</emph>
                  </rs>, then use it—it is the best book about this.</p>
               <p>
                  <lb facs="#facs_152_tr_2_tl_3" n="N003"/>Now here you see what the truth of <rs type="keyword" ref="#Interpretation">interpretation</rs> is. The truth of interpretation is: you try
               <lb facs="#facs_152_tr_2_tl_4" n="N004"/>to find out, with all your heart and strength, what the author really has said. You must be an excellent
               <lb facs="#facs_152_tr_2_tl_5" n="N005"/>philologist in order to comment on one sentence of the Old or New Testament. You must know the
               <lb facs="#facs_152_tr_2_tl_6" n="N006"/>languages—and here I make a great question-mark about present-day theological or also philosophical
               <lb facs="#facs_152_tr_2_tl_7" n="N007"/>education (if it is the Greek or Latin authors in philosophy), and you must be able to see these verses
               <lb facs="#facs_152_tr_2_tl_9" n="N008"/>in the light of the contemporary literature, ideas, use of words, etc.—all what we call <rs type="keyword" ref="#Philology">philology</rs>. Then
               <lb facs="#facs_152_tr_2_tl_10" n="N009"/>you must try to understand the meanings. And if you try to understand the meaning, you create
               <lb facs="#facs_152_tr_2_tl_11" n="N010"/>something <rs type="keyword" ref="#Concept">“third.”</rs> Now this makes a fact understandable which I really indicated in terms of the
               <lb facs="#facs_152_tr_2_tl_12" n="N011"/>interpretation of the Bible—now in more than 200 centuries, 2500 years, about, when we add the
              <lb facs="#facs_152_tr_2_tl_13" n="N012"/>Old Testament comments and interpretations which are partly in the texts of all Bibles themselves.</p>
               <p>
                  <lb facs="#facs_152_tr_2_tl_14" n="N013"/>Then another example in a much larger sense and nearer to history as a whole. Take
               <lb facs="#facs_152_tr_2_tl_15" n="N014"/>Greek culture. Greek culture has been interpreted, from the day of its existence on, first by itself—for
              <lb facs="#facs_152_tr_2_tl_16" n="N015"/>instance by <rs type="person" ref="#tillich_person_id__80">Aristotle</rs>, in his <hi style="font-style: italic;">Politeia</hi>, then by the Romans, then by the Germanic-Romanic nations,
               <lb facs="#facs_152_tr_2_tl_17" n="N016"/>then by the Middle Ages, then by the Renaissance, then by the Enlightenment, then by classicism,
               <lb facs="#facs_152_tr_2_tl_18" n="N017"/>then by modern realism, and today by the <emph rend="allcaps">tragic</emph> feeling towards the world, and the rediscovery
               <lb facs="#facs_152_tr_2_tl_19" n="N018"/>of Greek tragedy. Now as you have this whole history of interpretation of Greek culture,
               <lb facs="#facs_152_tr_2_tl_20" n="N019"/>you cannot say, “Some people were better acquainted with the facts than others, and the nearer
               <lb facs="#facs_152_tr_2_tl_21" n="N020"/>to <rs type="person" ref="#tillich_person_id__965">Werner Jaeger</rs>, the better one knows about the Greeks.” Now he himself would deny such nonsense
               <lb facs="#facs_152_tr_2_tl_22" n="N021"/>violently; he knew that his teachers <emph rend="allcaps">also</emph> knew <rs type="keyword" ref="#Greek_Language">Greek</rs> and Greek literature. But you must say
               <lb facs="#facs_152_tr_2_tl_23" n="N022"/>something quite different, namely that according to the different situations in our own history,
               <lb facs="#facs_152_tr_2_tl_24" n="N023"/>the encounter with the Greek reality—after the philological problems where there is progress and
               <lb facs="#facs_152_tr_2_tl_25" n="N024"/>better insights, have been solved—that after all this has happened, another image of Greek reality
               <lb facs="#facs_152_tr_2_tl_26" n="N025"/>occurs. And the <emph rend="allcaps">great</emph> historians are those who give us these images. They know the facts;
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                  <lb facs="#facs_153_tr_3_tl_2" n="N002"/>otherwise they would not be <rs type="keyword" ref="#Historian">historians</rs> at all. They have explanations, which is a difficult job,
               <lb facs="#facs_153_tr_3_tl_3" n="N003"/>open to many errors. Beyond this they understand, they participate in, the reality of Greek thinking
               <lb facs="#facs_153_tr_3_tl_4" n="N004"/>and living, and out of their <rs type="keyword" ref="#Participation">participation</rs>, into which they bring their own whole reality, they give us
               <lb facs="#facs_153_tr_3_tl_6" n="N005"/>a picture of this historical phenomenon which we call Greek culture. And this picture has truth,
               <lb facs="#facs_153_tr_3_tl_7" n="N006"/>it has the truth of creative understanding, which is a very definite form of truth. There are three
               <lb facs="#facs_153_tr_3_tl_8" n="N007"/>levels in it: the factual understanding, which is empirical and has analogy to physical knowledge
               <lb facs="#facs_153_tr_3_tl_9" n="N008"/>and for which experimental methods can be used in the sense of documentation. It has the hypothetical
               <lb facs="#facs_153_tr_3_tl_10" n="N009"/>element of hypothetical derivation of one fact from the other. And here hypotheses have less
               <lb facs="#facs_153_tr_3_tl_11" n="N010"/>probability than any physical hypothesis has, but they have <emph rend="allcaps">some</emph> probability, and can be corrected
              <lb facs="#facs_153_tr_3_tl_12" n="N011"/>all the time.</p>
               <p>
                  <lb facs="#facs_153_tr_3_tl_13" n="N012"/>Then there is the understanding, which makes the <rs type="keyword" ref="#Historian">historian</rs> great, and gives us, through
               <lb facs="#facs_153_tr_3_tl_14" n="N013"/>his eyes, a new picture of the past which is always also our own existence, because we belong not
              <lb facs="#facs_153_tr_3_tl_15" n="N014"/>only to our present and our future, but also to our past.</p>
               <p>
                  <lb facs="#facs_153_tr_3_tl_16" n="N015"/>So I can say: from <emph rend="allcaps">scientific</emph> knowledge, the explanation and understanding is
               <lb facs="#facs_153_tr_3_tl_17" n="N016"/>distinguished in history by participation, but this doesn’t make history, poetry or epics.
              <lb facs="#facs_153_tr_3_tl_18" n="N017"/>Early history was told by the epic poets, by those who told the epic story, like the <rs type="person" ref="#tillich_person_id__926">Homeric</rs>
                  <lb facs="#facs_153_tr_3_tl_19" n="N018"/>stories, on the marketplace to all people. Now <rs type="keyword" ref="#History">history</rs> does not have this character. It has the
               <lb facs="#facs_153_tr_3_tl_20" n="N019"/>detached factual inquiry. It is not mythological or legendary truth, nor is it epical or poetic
              <lb facs="#facs_153_tr_3_tl_21" n="N020"/>truth. But it is the truth of its own right and in its own character.</p>
               <p>
                  <lb facs="#facs_153_tr_3_tl_22" n="N021"/>Now we come from here to the great problem of the relation of religion to historical
               <lb facs="#facs_153_tr_3_tl_23" n="N022"/>truth. If our definition is justified, that <rs type="keyword" ref="#Religion">religion</rs> is the state of being ultimately concerned,
               <lb facs="#facs_153_tr_3_tl_25" n="N023"/>if faith is ultimate concern, then we would say that faith cannot guarantee the factual element
               <lb facs="#facs_153_tr_3_tl_26" n="N024"/>or the explanatory element, and that faith lives in the element of meaning. But to the cultural
               <lb facs="#facs_153_tr_3_tl_27" n="N025"/>meaning of a reality of the past, it adds the dimension of ultimate concern. And it can do this to
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                  <lb facs="#facs_154_tr_1_tl_2" n="N002"/>any secular text, to any picture, and it can do it to religious texts.</p>
               <p>
                  <lb facs="#facs_154_tr_1_tl_3" n="N003"/>This gives me an occasion to make a differentiation here, not in personal terms but
               <lb facs="#facs_154_tr_1_tl_4" n="N004"/>in terms of reality itself. Every historical situation can be interpreted in cultural forms—philosophical,
               <lb facs="#facs_154_tr_1_tl_5" n="N005"/>political, educational, humanistic, whatever you want to call it—you can understand it, as for instance
               <lb facs="#facs_154_tr_1_tl_6" n="N006"/>I gave you the example of Greek culture, which has been understood differently in all periods.
               <lb facs="#facs_154_tr_1_tl_7" n="N007"/>And this is also true of all biblical literature, of all religious literature: you can understand,
               <lb facs="#facs_154_tr_1_tl_8" n="N008"/>in this way, the literature of the Old and the New Testament. It is Jewish cultural history, and the
               <lb facs="#facs_154_tr_1_tl_9" n="N009"/>cultural history of an early sect whom the emperor, Augustus, called <hi style="font-style: italic;">Christiani</hi>—you can do that.
               <lb facs="#facs_154_tr_1_tl_11" n="N010"/>But there is another dimension, the dimension of <rs type="keyword" ref="#Ultimacy">ultimacy</rs>, and <emph rend="allcaps">this</emph> dimension can be applied
               <lb facs="#facs_154_tr_1_tl_12" n="N011"/>
                  <emph rend="allcaps">also</emph> to <emph rend="allcaps">all</emph> the past, not only to the religious sources and to the churches and their history,
               <lb facs="#facs_154_tr_1_tl_13" n="N012"/>but also to the secular sources and to the nations and their histories. You can try to find what is
               <lb facs="#facs_154_tr_1_tl_14" n="N013"/>the ultimate meaning of such a thing as Greek culture, as you can find what is the national
               <lb facs="#facs_154_tr_1_tl_16" n="N014"/>meaning of such a thing as Old Testament culture. And if you do so, if you ask the question of the
               <lb facs="#facs_154_tr_1_tl_17" n="N015"/>ultimate meaning, you make a theological analysis, you try to find out the religious meaning in its
               <lb facs="#facs_154_tr_1_tl_18" n="N016"/>ultimacy. And this is substantially in all culture—you remember my basic statement that <rs type="keyword" ref="#Religion">religion</rs>
                  <lb facs="#facs_154_tr_1_tl_19" n="N017"/>is the substance of culture and culture the form of religion. Therefore all religious texts are <emph rend="allcaps">also</emph>
                  <lb facs="#facs_154_tr_1_tl_20" n="N018"/>culture (they have cultural form), and all cultural creations are also religious (they explain, indirectly,
              <lb facs="#facs_154_tr_1_tl_21" n="N019"/>ultimate meaning, ultimate concern).</p>
               <p>
                  <lb facs="#facs_154_tr_1_tl_22" n="N020"/>Now what is historical truth, if you apply the religious dimension, the dimension of
               <lb facs="#facs_154_tr_1_tl_23" n="N021"/>ultimate concern? It is not factual truth. In the name of faith, you cannot guarantee facts.
               <lb facs="#facs_154_tr_1_tl_24" n="N022"/>Facts are a matter of detached experimentation with documents, and can never be reached
               <lb facs="#facs_154_tr_1_tl_26" n="N023"/>beyond a high, and in most cases a low, degree of probability. Faith cannot guarantee explanations.
               <lb facs="#facs_154_tr_1_tl_27" n="N024"/>
                  <emph rend="allcaps">Why</emph> Judas betrayed Jesus is not a matter of faith, but a matter of many different hypotheses,
               <lb facs="#facs_154_tr_1_tl_28" n="N025"/>whereby even the fact of the betrayal, what <emph rend="allcaps">was</emph> betrayed, is a very difficult problem. This is not
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                  <lb facs="#facs_155_tr_2_tl_2" n="N002"/>a matter of <rs type="keyword" ref="#Faith">faith</rs>. This is a matter of valuation of possible psychological motives in this man and
               <lb facs="#facs_155_tr_2_tl_3" n="N003"/>in the situation, but that that event in which Judas has played a role, according to the tradition,
               <lb facs="#facs_155_tr_2_tl_4" n="N004"/>has a dimension of ultimacy, and that this dimension may concern some people ultimately (certainly
              <lb facs="#facs_155_tr_2_tl_5" n="N005"/>those who call themselves Christians): that is what faith can say about <rs type="keyword" ref="#History">history</rs>.</p>
               <p>
                  <lb facs="#facs_155_tr_2_tl_6" n="N006"/>Now I will go into this more fully, but this is the first answer, which we must keep
               <lb facs="#facs_155_tr_2_tl_7" n="N007"/>in mind, that the factual and the explanatory levels are not a matter of faith, that the truth of
               <lb facs="#facs_155_tr_2_tl_8" n="N008"/>faith is the truth in the dimension of ultimate concern, which can be found in historical events
               <lb facs="#facs_155_tr_2_tl_9" n="N009"/>in spite of the insecurity of our factual knowledge about them. The consequences of this analysis
               <lb facs="#facs_155_tr_2_tl_10" n="N010"/>are very far-reaching, and I will discuss them next time.
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